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Soans Soans Sones Genealogy |
30 Oct 2019 |
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Dr Geoffrey Mann |
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8 John SOANES c1690-1743? |
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m Mary ALSOP 1716 |
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John lived and died in Forest Hill and was probably born there around 1690. He married Mary ALSOP from the neighbouring parish of Stanton St John in 1716 and they baptised their first child there. Six further children were baptised at Forest Hill between 1718 and 1739 before John died in 1743. Mary probably outlived him for 30 years |
C=Christened
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age DATE JS MA |
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c 1690 8Nov1716 26 21 3Aug1718 28 23 15Jan1720 30 25 11Aug1723 33 28 8May1726 36 31 5Mar1732 42 37 1Aug1736 46 41 20Apr1739 49 44 5Mar1748 58 53 |
John born
John SONES of Forest Hill mar Mary ALSOP at Stanton St John
son John C at Stanton St John
son Benjamin C at Forest Hill
son Thomas C at Forest Hill
dau Mary C at Forest Hill
dau Ann C at Forest Hill
son William C at Forest Hill
dau Susanne C at Forest Hill
John SOANES and M his wife buried at Forest Hill |
John’s age based on an assumed
birth date of 1690
Mary’s age based on an assumed age of 21 at marriage
b=born m=married d=died
C=Christened B=Buried
John
married Mary ALSOP in 1716; at that time he was of Forest Hill, and he baptised
his children there from 1720 to (probably) 1739. A baptism around 1690 is therefore expected, but unfortunately
the Forest Hill register is lacking the years 1680 to 1700. The only previous baptism of John at Forest
Hill or in the Oxford index is in 1663: C 14Jul1663 John s Thomas SOAN. This
would give him an age of 53 at marriage, and although possible is unlikely.
Following
this deficient period, the registers have baptisms to John in 1701-3, to
William 1708-11 and to Thomas 1714-1727.
Since there are no baptisms to William between 1700 and 1708, and none
to Thomas between 1700 and 1714, it seems likely that William married c1705 and
Thomas c1712. This leaves John, father of Joseph and William, as the
most probable father of John-8. The two baptisms to this John are:
C 2Nov1701 Joseph s John SONES
C
19Sep1703 William s John SONES
and it may be surmised that earlier baptisms of John's children took place in the deficient period between 1680 and 1700, including that of John-8.
The most likely hypothesis at present is that John
was the parent of Joseph 1701, William 1703 and also of John-8 around 1690.
John
SOANES-7 was baptised at Stanton St John in 1718, son of John & Mary of
Forest Hill. This baptism is preceded
by the following marriage at Stanton St John:
m 8Nov1716 John SONES of Forest Hill & Mary ALSOP married after banns Nov 8 certified publication of banns between Wm Poole of this parish and Margaret Cowper of the parish of Charlton Nov 21
the
register note that John was of Forest Hill leaves little doubt that this is the
correct marriage
C 3Aug1718 John s John & Mary SOANES of
Forest Hill
C
15Jan1720 Benjamin s John SOANS; m
6Nov1744 Jane STEPHENS at Trinity College Chapel
C
11Aug1723 Thomas s John SOANS
C 8May1726 Mary d John SONES
C 5Mar1732 Ann d John SOANS
C 1Aug1736 William s John SOANS
C
20Apr1739 Susanne d John SOANS
John &
Mary married in 1716 and baptised their last child at Forest Hill in 1739; after
this come the following burials at Forest Hill:
B
13Apr1743 John SOANES
B 5Mar1748 John SOANS & M his wife
the next John burial is in 1801 which is too late. It is not clear which John is the father and which is the son. But making least assumptions, probably John senior died first followed by his son John and his wife M (Mary). It is strange they were buried on the same day, but there is no comment in the register.
Mary ALSOP is a common name, but no suitable nearby baptism has
been found.