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SMITHERS genealogy
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Dr Geoffrey Mann |
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3 Elizabeth Evans SMITHERS 1838-1884 |
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m Timothy NOONAN 1871 |
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Elizabeth Evans SMITHERS was born in Upton near
Slough in 1838, one year after her parents James and Elizabeth BROWN were
married at Cookham.
She was named Evans from the maiden surname of her father’s
mother. Shortly after When In 1851, Elizabeth was 12 and a scholar living
with the family in Mile End, but at 19 she had an illegitimate child,
Elizabeth Mary Ann, born at her parent’s house in Devonshire St, only 2
months after her mother had born twins at the same address. Two years later she was living with her new
daughter in the next road to her parents, earning her living as a
stay-maker. Later that year (1863), Her second daughter was born in 1864 in the Mile
End workhouse; It is possible that this time At Brentford in the same year, Timothy was discharged from the Army with a
pension in March 1876 (see below for details of his career) and gave his
intended residence as Whitton. But not long after,
Elizabeth with her husband and two daughters moved to the garrison town of By 1881, |
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? 25Jny1884 45 |
born at Upton Berks
(near with parents at scholar, with family at dau Elizabeth Mary Ann born
at parents house, - at Elizabeth Mary Ann C at
St Peter, Cephas St; receiving poor relief
and ordered to be removed to with parents at daughter Lavinia born at Mile End Workhouse registered birth of Lavinia; signed with X; address: Mile End Workhouse with her two daughters
in Brentford; married soldier Timothy NOONAN at Brentford Timothy NOONAN discharged from army with a pension moved to Shoeburyness with her husband and
two daughters daughter Elizabeth
married a soldier at Shoebury at died of heart disease at Shoebury |
b=born m=married d=died
C=Christened B=Buried
the 1851
census has Elizabeth born about 1839 in Slough, Bucks, daughter of James &
Elizabeth; a suitable certificate was found for a birth at Upton, about 1 mile
from Slough:
b
r
f:
James Smithers SMITHERS
carpenter; m: Elizabeth BROWN
m
Timothy x NOONAN 36 bch labourer Old Brentford & Elizabeth x SMITHERS 32 wid Old Brentford
f: James NOONAN deceased labourer; James BROWN carpenter; wit: Samuel x STILWELL Susan x STILWELL
[Presumably,
b
r
b
r
C
[Lavinia Smithers baptism not
found Dec1864 - Jan1870, but a Lavinia HOPE was born
next door to her parent’s house in 1865.
Her mother, Lavinia, would have been pregnant
at the same time as
C
Both Elizabeth and Lavinia married in Shoebury:
m 1[?]Jan1879 at S.Shoebury parish church after banns:
Francis McGLADRIGAN bch 24
Royal Artillery South Shoebury & Elizabeth
SMITHERS spr 20 of S Shoebury
f:Francis
McGLADRIGAN carpenter, Timothy SMITHERS soldier; wit:
Joseph FOSTER, Jessie SMITHERS
Francis
McGladrigan died just ten days later and
Click here to these and other records of Elizabeth’s life.
m
Herbert
Henry MANN bch, 25, carpenter of S Shoebury & Lavinia Jessica SMITHERS spr, 22,
of S Shoebury
f:Henry MANN, market gardener; James SMITHERS;wit:: Thomas FISHER, Henrietta FISHER, W W MANN, B HALLUM
d 25Jny1884 Elizabeth NOONAN at Shoeburyness, female 36, wife of Timothy NOONAN, an army pensioner of diseased heart
r 28Jny1884 at Gt.Wakering, Rochford, ESS by Timothy NOONAN widower of deceased, Shoeburyness, present at death
James SMITHERS 20 1821 [none stated] n
Mary PICKMAN 20 1821 FS n
Richard KING 45 1796 cow keeper n
Mary KING 40 1801 n
Eliza WATSON 12 1829 FS n
James SMITHERS he mar 33 1818 carpenter Worplesdon SRY
Martha SMITHERS da 9 1842 scholar Shoreditch MDX
Mary Ann SMITHERS da 6 1845 scholar Maidenhead, Berks
James SMITHERS so 4 1847 Mile End MDX
George SMITHERS so 2 1849 Mile End MDX
Sarah Ann SMITHERS da 1 1850 Mile End MDX
Elizab’th SMITHERS he
wid 22 1839 stay maker Maidenhead Berks
Elizab’th SMITHERS 2 1859
also at 19: Thos HOWE 31 porter,
his wife, dau, son and sister; Henry WOODWARD,
lodger, with his wife son and mother-in-law
Eliza Mary Ann SMITHERS da 12 1859 dress maker Mile End MDX
Jese Leine SMITHERS da 6 1865 Mile End MDX
the enumeration district ran from Boston Rd Chapel and
North side of the High rd; from East side of Halfacre
to the West side of Cannon Alley and the
Timothy NOONAN [blank] unm 37 1834 student soldier
Samuel
STILWELL [blank] unm 34 1837 student soldier
[Samuel
Stilwell was witness to Timothy NOONAN’s marriage in
July 1871]
1881
Timothy NOONAN he mar 44 1837 laborer (Chelsea Pensioner) Tiperary Ireland
Elizabeth NOONAN wi mar 42 1839 Hounslow MDX
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Joseph FOSTER he mar 29 1852 Corporal Royal Engineers Sheffield YKS
Elizabeth FOSTER wi mar 22 1859 London MDX
Elizabeth FOSTER da unm 6m 1880 Shoeburyness
Christopher COLLIS he mar 39 1852 carpenter; 3 rooms; empd Whitchurch,
Hants
Sarah COLLIS wi mar 29 1862
John G COLLIS so 2 1889 Shoeburyness
Christopher COLLIS so 4m 1890 Shoeburyness
James SMITHERS lo wdr
74 1817 carpenter; 1 room; empld Worplesdon SRY
James S SMITHERS pauper wdr 82 1719 retired carpenter
Met Arch: StBG/ME/103/3/35 94
Elizabeth SMITHERS aged 23 and her illegitimate child named Elizabeth aged 3 are now inhabiting MEOT …….. not having gained legal settlement .….. are now receiving relief. The said Elizabeth SMITHERS is the lawful daughter of James & Elizabeth SMITHERS who on the 1st day of June 1830 was bound apprentice to John POTTS of Slough, Bucks, carpenter and joiner, and during the 7years and the last 40 days and on the last night he resided and slept at the house of his master in Slough
Met Arch:StBG/ME/97/4 7755
SMITHERS Elizth (26) Workho:- Spr,
pregnant, (see Jo's 4456 and 4301); 1 child Elizabeth Mary Anne, 5 in Mick [Mch?] last, born at 2 Devonshire St wks at home 2
Devonshire St East [in
margin: not give]; prior No.1 St
James Rd [written
above: Mr Tiboumercy] -] past St James Ch -
near Victoria Park Gates) then 1/1 wks;
prior at home for a fortnight;
prior at M? Stephensons,
Cx [cross-examine]
Order on Bray
[NOTES: wks= works or weeks? 1/1=1m1wk?;
Eliz was domestic servant at 64 Lincoln St at baptism of daughter Elizabeth
Mary Ann in 1858;
Stephenson and Tiboumercy probably
employed Elizabeth as a domestic servant; 1a St James Rd was occupied by the
curate of St James the Less; Nags head was in Oakley Green, 3m S Bray, 3m from
Old Windsor where James mother and brother were in 1851
Glasgow
born Golden parish, town of
enlisted 13th regiment
at Clonmell Tipperary
re-engaged at
final discharge
height 5’ 6” fresh complexion, blue eyes, light brown hair, trade; labourer. No marks or scars. No disabilities
Intended place of residence: Whitton Middlesex
21 years 23 days service, 9 years 2 months abroad: Gibraltar 7 months, Crimea I year, Cape of Good hope 1 year 4 months, East Indies 6 years 3 months
claimed discharge on the termination of his second period of engagement
never tried by court; never wounded; recorded in the defaulters book 5 times
character and conduct: very
good; four good conduct badges:
It is estimated that his pension would have been between 8d and 1s per day (£15 pa equivalent to about £700 pa in the year 2000)
Musters were held approximately every quarter, each man being listed in rank with pay and conduct etc. These records cover the period April 1863 to December 1864 and were examined to determine whether Timothy Noonan could possibly be the father of Lavinia. She was born17Dec1864 and so conceived around March 1864.
From April to December 1863, the battalion was in
Each reference book contains I years muster in 4 quarters.
Jul-Sep Battalion at
Oct-Dec Battalion
at
Jan-Mar 1871 Battalion at Pembroke Dock; TM not listed
Apr-Jun 1873
Jul-Sep
Jan-Mar 1874 Newry; TM not listed
Apr-Jun
1875 Glasgow; TM at Kneller
Hall
Jul-Sep Glasgow; TM at Kneller
Hall
Oct-Dec Glasgow; TM at Kneller
Hall
Jan-Mar
1876 Glasgow; TM discharged to pension
28 March
It seems
likely that Timothy Noonan remained at Kneller Hall
while the regiment moved from