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Dr Geoffrey Mann
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John was baptised in the parish of Chobham in 1666, son of Henry and Mary HALE. John’s elder brother, Henry, became a yeoman of Worplesdon, some 5 miles away, but died in 1694 aged 40 leaving bequests to all his brothers and sisters, including John. Shortly after the will was proved, John married Margaret of Woking at West Clandon and moved to Worplesdon, possibly on to the land previously held by Henry. A daughter and three sons were baptised at Worplesdon, though the daughter died young and a gap of ten years preceded the last baptism which may perhaps indicate that other children were born between 1701 and 1711. John lived to his 80th year and both he and Margaret were buried at Worplesdon. |
C=Christened
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27May1666 10Feb1694 28 22Apr1694 28 22Mar1696 30 1Apr1696 30 6Apr1697 31 25Mar1701 35 1711 45 15Dec1741 75 23Mar1746 80 |
John baptised at Chobham
son of s Henry and Mary HALE will proved of brother
Henry, yeoman of Worplesdon; John a beneficiary John HALE of Worplesdon
married Margarett VULUIN of Woking at W.Clandon dau Margaret C at
Worplesdon Margaret dau of John
& Margaret buried at Worplesdon son John C at Worplesdon son Richard C at
Worplesdon son George C at
Worplesdon Margaret HALE buried at
Worplesdon John HALE senior buried
at Worplesdon |
b=born m=married d=died
C=Christened B=Buried
John of Worplesdon married at W.Clandon in 1694 so a birth date around 1670 might be expected. There is no suitable baptism at Worplesdon. Robert & Elizabeth HALL baptised three sons there between 1664 and 1667, but no John.
The will of Henry HALE, yeoman of Worplesdon, made in 1693 shows that he had 4 brothers living named Richard, George, Nicholas and John, and two sisters Elizabeth (RUSSELL) and Mary (DENYER). The baptismal records of this family were found at Chobham, about 6 miles from Worplesdon. The coincidence of names leaves no doubt that the family came from Chobham. John was baptised in 1666, a suitable date for John-8, and Henry’s will shows that he moved from Chobham to Worplesdon, so it is not unlikely that his brother John did also. Note also that his sister Elizabeth married a man from Worplesdon:
m 14Nov1693 Robert RUSSELL of Worplesdon & Elz’th HAILE otp at Chobham
Perhaps it is significant that John-8 married on 22Apr1694 just after his brother’s will was proved on 10Feb1693/4.
Naming patterns also support this derivation, since the names Richard & George were used in the Chobham family and also by John-8 for two of his three known sons; Overall ther is little doubt that John-8 was baptised at Chobham and moved to Worplesdon after his marriage:
C 27May1666 John s Henry HALE at Chobham
George-7
was baptised at Worplesdon in 1711, son of John HAILE; three previous baptisms
were recorded at Worplesdon to John & Margaret HAILE between 1696 and 1701,
but mother's names were not recorded in the Worplesdon registers between about
1702 and 1730. The ten year gap in
baptisms to John & Margaret and to John between 1701 and 1711 however makes
it uncertain that George’s mother was Margaret. Thomas HALL baptised three children in this period between 1704
and 1710 so the register is not lacking.
The surname spelling reverts to HAILE for George in 1711, so it seems
unlikely that he should have been recorded as a son of Thomas. Moreover, George had a son named John, but
no son named Thomas. He also had a son
named Richard as did John & Margaret.
It will be assumed therefore that George was a son of John and Margaret.
The
baptisms are preceded by a suitable marriage in nearby West Clandon:
m
22Apr1694 John HALE of Worplesdon & Margarett VULUIN of Woaking
no reasons
known why they married outside both their parishes
C 22Mar1696+Margaret d John & Margaret HAILE; B 1Apr1696 Margaret d John & Margaret
C 6Apr1697 John s John & Margaret HAIL
C 25Mar1701 Richard s John & Margaret HAILE; B 13Mar1746+ Richard HALE
C 1711 George s John HAILE
see marriage discussion above for the inclusion of George in this sequence
there is only one burial of Margaret, and only one of a John at Worplesdon; both are at suitable times, leaving little doubt that these are the correct records:
B 15Dec1741 Margaret HALE
B 23Mar1746 John HALE senior
Henry HALE of Worplesdon yeoman; to my daughter Mary unmarried not yet 21; to my six brothers and sister: Richard HALE, George HALE, Nicholas HALE, John HALE, Elizabeth now wife of Robert RUSSELL, Mary now wife of Henry DENYER
wit Abraham [blank], Mr GROVE, Thomas WOODS; s 18Dec1693 p 10Feb 1694
[note:
Abraham HALE of Rotherhithe will 1722]
will
of John FULVIN of Cobham [DW/PA/7/25; DW/PA/5/1742/46]
From West Surrey FHS CD8 “The Guildford Collection”
283 John Fulvin of Cobham, yeoman 13 Apr 1742
my two copyhold messuages in the occupation
of Ralph Lucas and myself in Cobham to my nephew John Hale son of my sister
Margaret Hale wife of John of Worplesdon paying £4 p.a. to my wife Elizabeth Fulvin for life and £1 p.a. to my brother in law John Hale for life paying two nephews Richard Hale
and George Hale £5 each after the death of my wife and brother John Hale; to my nephew
David Francis my copyhold messuage in the occupation of
John Frood in Cobham paying £2 p.a. for life to my wife; to my niece Catherine Cox wife of John Cox £5 for said last house after the death of my wife;
my freehold messuage and land I bought from John Massey in
Send to my nephew William Francis paying £2 to my sister Catherine Francis and brother in law John Francis for life; to my niece Catherine Cox £20 and
to Ann Francis daughter of John Francis, jnr. £5; brother
John Francis owes me £50 and I give it to my nephew David Francis after the
death of Catherine and John Francis his mother and father; to my sister Catherine
Francis all my goods in house of brother
John Francis in Send; to my wife all my goods she had before we married; to my
nephews David and William Francis
and John, Richard and George Hale rest of estate; nephew John Hale, exec.
Witnesses: Robert Porter; George Heath; James
Winter
Proved: 7 Jul 1742 to exec. [DW/PA/7/25;
DW/PA/5/1742/46] (d. within a month)